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“Members should constantly bear in mind the possibility of contributing new rites. An improvisation rite is not a musical composition; it does not attempt to influence the music that will be played; at most it may establish a community of feeling, or a communal starting point, through ritual.” A Scratch Orchestra: draft constitution. June 1969.

“Les membres doivent constamment garder à l’esprit la possibilité de contribuer à de nouveaux rites. Un rite d'improvisation n'est pas une composition musicale; il ne tente pas d'influencer la musique qui sera jouée; tout au plus peut-il créer une communauté de sentiments ou un point de départ communautaire par le biais de rituels.” Un orchestre à gratter: projet de constitution. Juin 1969.

“An accompaniment is defined as music that allows a solo (in the event of one occurring) to be appreciated as such.” Cornelius Cardew, draft constitution 1969
“Un accompagnement est défini comme une musique qui permet d'apprécier un solo (le cas échéant).” Cornelius Cardew, projet de constitution de 1969

Note 1b (to be given out on the first day to all participants) translated by Google! Leave or correct?? examples of Improvisation Rites

Rite: HMS5 Improvisation Rite. By Hugh Shrapnel. (This is an abridged version as found in NSN notes) ‘Any number of people making any sounds. Perform in a large area, as widely separated from each other as possible. Performers stay in the same place throughout, keeping physical movement to a minimum.’

Rite: Rite d'improvisation HMS 5. (Ceci est une version abrégée telle que trouvée dans les notes NSN) ‘N'importe quel nombre de personnes émettant des sons. Jouez dans une vaste zone, aussi éloignée que possible les unes des autres. Les artistes interprètes ou exécutants restent au même endroit tout en minimisant les mouvements physiques. »

Rite: CC 7 by Cornelius Cardew. ‘Take a stupid book. A reader reads aloud from it while the rest improvise. The role of the reader may wander, a) throughout he reader presenting the stupid book to someone else, and b) by someone wresting the stupid book from the reader. A reader may attempt to terminate proceedings by ceasing to read aloud from the stupid book.’

Rite: CC 7 ‘Prends un livre stupide. Un lecteur en lit à haute voix pendant que le reste improvise. Le rôle du lecteur peut diverger, a) tout au long de la présentation du livre stupide à quelqu'un d'autre par le lecteur, et b) par le fait que quelqu'un arrache le livre stupide au lecteur. Un lecteur peut tenter de mettre fin à la procédure en cessant de lire à voix haute le livre stupide. “

Rite: MP 21 by Michael Parsons. ‘Place comfortable mattresses about the room. Those who feel tired lie down. The to hers play or sing relaxing music. A player who is tired may also lie down. Ends when any or all of those lying down are asleep…’

Rite: MP 21 (de Michael Parsons). ‘Placez des matelas confortables dans la pièce. Ceux qui se sentent fatigués se couchent. Le son joue ou chante une musique relaxante. Un joueur qui est fatigué peut également se coucher. Finit quand tout ou partie de ceux qui sont couchés sont endormis… »

Rite: PD 31 (by Phillip Dadson) ‘If you have something to give, give it. Don’t hesitate to give, yet choose the time or space. If you have nothing to give, receive. By receiving you are under no obligation to give, yet it is better to give than receive. Stop making music when you please, but don’t stop giving.’

Rite: PD 31 (par Phillip Dadson) «Si vous avez quelque chose à donner, donnez-le. N’hésitez pas à donner, mais choisissez le temps ou l’espace. Si vous n'avez rien à donner, recevez. En recevant, vous n'êtes pas obligé de donner, mais il vaut mieux donner que recevoir. Arrêtez de faire de la musique quand vous voulez, mais n'arrêtez pas de donner. "

Rite: HS 55 by Howard Skempton. ‘Drop everything. Do it gently for fear of damage.’

Rite: HS 55 par Howard Skempton. 'Arrête tout. Faites-le doucement par peur des dommages.’

Rite: BG 63 by Bob Guy. ‘The group chooses a suitable outdoor site and waits for rain. Meanwhile improvisation take place in an attempt to induce rainfall.’
Rite: BG 63 de Bob Guy. «Le groupe choisit un site extérieur approprié et attend la pluie. Dans l’intervalle, des improvisations ont lieu pour tenter de provoquer des précipitations.

Rite: BH 93 by Bryn Harris ‘Play in a circular fashion. Increase the diameter of the circle. (The music should finally be ingested by its own fundamental orifice.’
Rite: BH 93 de Bryn Harris ‘Jouez de façon circulaire. Augmente le diamètre du cercle. (La musique devrait enfin être ingérée par son propre orifice fondamental.

Rite CF146 by Carole Finer ‘Page one of the Standard newspaper current on the day of the performance. Each performer has a copy which he will use as his score. Performers decide individually how they wish to interpret the score and perform accordingly for a given length of time.’

Rite CF146 «La première page du journal Standard en date du jour de la représentation. Chaque artiste a une copie qu'il utilisera comme partition. Les interprètes décident individuellement de la manière dont ils souhaitent interpréter la partition et se produisent en conséquence pendant une période donnée.

Here it will be done, rite after rite:

Some editorial freedoms are worth considering:
- additional breaklines for readability (the original was quite condensed),
- changing the emphasis from underline to bold (this is just for display, underlined version looks like a link to G4M glossary entry, and it can be easily changed back anyway),
- additional workarounds in case of graphic elements.

The setting up of pages caused also positive changes to sub-game template. This needs to be yet adjusted in some other entries in "sub" category. Sorry for the inconvenience there.

Knowing how the music games work, I had to put some effort to decipher it. And I still don't know what is the meaning of the heart. I'm not sure if it can serve as an introduction to music games.

Re: Twitter images by DrZdrowieDrZdrowie, 16 Jun 2020 10:33

I have some ideas for graphics that could join our twitter feed, but general questions remain unanswered.
Who should it be for? Depth/context? Promo/info/meme?

Realisation is done in the super-pro software of Google Slides ;) and craft displayed is proportional.

Could you comment on the potential first one?

Twitter images by odolanyodolany, 11 Jun 2020 22:10

Thank you for your patience. See here for the list of contributors:

In the process, three titles of games, that were included early at the site, have been withdrawn and their authors contacted in the hopes that they will be back in the library fairly soon.

There is a new page filled with information that may or may not be potentially useful: and it explains the meaning of all currently used game tags. Information about each tag also shows after clicking in the tag-cloud.
Some parts indeed provide clarification (for tags used inconsistently before), some are unfortunately just fillers, for completion.

SoMiDo, sorry, I removed a lot of your tags, as they were very specific only to your projects… ;)

As always all suggestions welcome! Of course new tags may be added, but let's try to make them covering at least few activities and not overlap with currently established.

EDIT: When tags are set, the interesting possibility appeared.
We can now select multiple tags at once. This will probably prove more useful with more games in the library.
See it for example at the bottom of the page.

Development Focus VIII - tags by odolanyodolany, 27 Apr 2020 08:27

We had an online jam 1-on-1. Thanks Krzysztoff!

Some discussing and figuring stuff out, and it seems that there is a set of games that can be played online with success, although rather with more than two people. Not so groovy stuff obviously.

Staircase (this one we played in a way), Imagined Seconds and Into the Labirynth should be fine.
3-split, some Mutual Prescriptions and Evolution of Music can have specific fitting options chosen.
Anyone up for more playing?

Re: Home music gaming by odolanyodolany, 13 Apr 2020 19:07

And now for sth completely different…

There is an app tag, although not very populated. Seems like some computer mediation fits the times.
I just encountered some by the guide of
As the apps are in Flash it also might be the last moment to engage with them.
Also… if you look for advanced modern music, it's "not that". Themes are rather: ostinato, horizontal organization, a scale…
This one is my favourite as it illustrates Emergence so nicely in a geometrical-musical context.

and many projects of

Re: Home music gaming by odolanyodolany, 01 Apr 2020 23:31

My situation in these unusual circumstances is that music games meetings were canclled :L, but I had much more time than usual to play with a non-musician adult and a non-musician pre-schooler. Ukulele, glockenspiel and guitar were used.

That was an occasion to seek simplified arrangements to some items from the library. I will add these variants soon. What worked for me so far was:
Into the Labyrinth — a version with an additional board for showing current position (played many times actually…),
Circle of 5 — a currently tested version,
we also played a modification of Drum Talk by John Scalici (it's shown on YT - basically it's more for teacher-students situation).

Now we might move to 3-split and Follow the images

And on the other hand, if anyone have an orientation in the topic of musicmaking online, please write. ;)

Home music gaming by odolanyodolany, 25 Mar 2020 21:56

The tooltips got reworked into a floating box with a glossary definition.
The code is relatively simple, here's an example for cue cards:

[[include inc:def

Put just before a paragraph that needs a displayed definition.

New Synzine is up:

issue 12 pdf

Re: New stuff to read by odolanyodolany, 21 Feb 2020 11:02

Some meetings went unnoted, but at the last one we tried two things for a first time:

Cornelius Cardew's Schooltime Special (1968) - you can check it out here:
The instruction is easy to follow, good entry to experimental classics. But imo, casually this would work better for large ensemble, 10+, and with people much into the historical aspect of music games.

Also we tried new cards that have a push-your-luck music-themed matching component and arrows that generate the direction of improvised melody. This was played to a minimalistic context and the musical result was starting to be interesting. But it had many flaws: components too small and hard to handle, flow of the game was bad, push-your-luck unbalanced and the setup required too much table space. I hope next version will be fine to describe here though.

Two new things added:
- mechanism for explaining tags (not yet fully used - a lot of tags remain to be described)
- a button to mark content as requiring clarification (adds a tag) - it's in bottom right for game, activity, glossary and wiki category

in the meantime we had a first vandalism of a front page ;) no problem though

Board Game Geek
odolanyodolany 20 Oct 2019 20:01
in discussion Inspirations / Games » Board Game Geek

I asked board games fans on BGG about their views on music games.

I linked Wikipedia, but there was some doubt about what a music game/game piece is and some suggestions as for games that might be of interest for music gamers.

There was a poll of which I include the results (from 44 voters):

Have you heard about game pieces/music games?
Yes. 6.8% 3
Maybe, not sure. 6.8% 3
No. 86.4% 38
Have you played game pieces/music games?
Yes. 4.7% 2
No. 95.3% 41
Are you interested in the topic?
Yes, I'd like to play it. 18.2% 8
Yes, on a conceptual level. 20.5% 9
Yes, for other reasons. 0.0% 0
Maybe, not sure. 25.0% 11
No, I don't care for music. 6.8% 3
No, there are so many regular games. 13.6% 6
No, for other reasons. 15.9% 7


Board Game Geek by odolanyodolany, 20 Oct 2019 20:01

Hello Laarni!

As I said in the first version of this post ;), that's an interesting idea for a site functionality. There sometimes are sound examples in the library, but there was no easy way to have it all together in one place, so I added: soundcloud and YouTube to gather different media under one pages.

I'm afraid though that most of available recordings is not of great quality.
(edit: links to example pages have changed)

Hi! I'm Laarni.
I hope to learn more music games and activities. I'd love to hear it.

The last issue of Synzine has games quite in spirit of the wiki (accessible, fun-oriented, elegant).

Personally I'll try each of them at our meetings.

Re: New stuff to read by odolanyodolany, 30 Aug 2019 14:26

the page should now work much better on small screens. if you have any suggestions regarding that please write here.

Development Focus VI (mobile) by odolanyodolany, 04 Aug 2019 00:04

Oh this is great! It's a much better flow of time, as I imagine it, with fewer explanations and switches between activities. I think the nature of the descriptions may depend on the individual players and group dynamic. I would be interested to see how it worked over several rounds as people get more used to the game and to each other's habits (tallying points after each round). Would strategies develop over in the second and third rounds? Is that too long to expect people to play?

The first issue of a new journal "Improvised Music - Open Scores" is out:

See what's in:
Open Scores – what is this ? (Carl Bergstrøm-Nielsen)
Amusement Arcade (Jacob Thompson-Bell)
Changeable Spring (Johan Toft)
Athena, Aristotle, Helen (Michael Pisaro)

The plan described in release info is to include both articles and open pieces.

New stuff to read by odolanyodolany, 11 Jul 2019 20:15
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